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Inbox: Opportunity is what you make of it

Learn the lessons from Denver but also keep perspective

Packers at Broncos Preseason Week 2
Packers at Broncos Preseason Week 2

Jason from Sioux Center, IA

Well, now that you've officially gotten through the first "overreaction Monday," how do you feel?

I feel ready for Tuesday and a new week in Green Bay.

Bruce from Fishers, IN

It seems to me that the Denver game gives the Packers organization a great opportunity to address team depth. Those players who learn from the loss and come back this week committed to improvement in effort, grit will be the ones best able to become good role/depth players for this season. The ones who don't will be gone. Either way the team gets better. I'm excited to find out.

He who bounces back best is who'll end up on this 53-man roster in two weeks. It's now Green Bay's turn to play host to a joint practice with Baltimore coming to town. The Packers have to be ready to meet that challenge.

Storm from Houston, TX

Good morning, II. Isn't it wonderful that Mike handles all the "the sky is falling" on Monday? Realizing this is what we needed. One, a good kick in the teeth. It's still preseason. Two, with the first team not playing, it gives playing time for the second and third string and an opportunity for coaches to better evaluate players. Three, stay healthy. GPG.

This game has a way of quickly humbling you. The Packers could do no wrong in Cleveland and struggled to get much right in Denver. I didn't lose any sleep, though. It was two teams with two very different approaches to the game. For me, the only disappointing thing was how Green Bay's offense struggled to get into a rhythm after the Broncos' starters exited.

Al from Green Bay, WI

OK, fine. The Denver game wasn't exciting. But the team came away relatively healthy, and the tape is there for evaluation. Not a failure, just another step in the process as we approach the roster cuts and meaningful games! Can we really ask for more?

It was a rough game. I'm not gonna sit here and say it wasn't, but you have to keep preseason games in perspective. The Packers weren't winning the Super Bowl this year based solely on how well they played in Cleveland last week. Nor will they go winless because they didn't score any offensive points. Learn the lessons from Denver but also keep perspective. Honestly, I think the response this week supersedes the result on Sunday night.

Dave from North Potomac, MD

Good morning, Mike and Wes. Thirty-one people sit out. That leaves space to evaluate who the other 22 can be. I didn't see too many making a good case for themselves last night. Please enlighten me, who did make a case for making the team?

I felt Kristian Welch and Brenton Cox Jr. both showed their value to this team in their own individual way. After being so close to a sack over the past year, Cox had a no-doubter in Denver. His athleticism is impressive. Welch has mostly played on special teams during his first four NFL seasons but has now registered big defensive plays in back-to-back games, which is the name of the preseason game.

Gary from Sheboygan, WI

Insiders, it looked like the main emphasis of the Packers' game plan was to evaluate the O-line prospects run blocking. IMO way too much emphasis on the running game, calling running plays on third-and-long led to a 3-for-13 success rate on third downs, not good even for second- and third-stringers.

I don't want to put myself in the mind of the coaches but certainly 88 yards on 26 carries isn't gonna cut it, especially when the passing game musters just 95 yards. That game reminded me a lot of the Packers' preseason finale against Kansas City in 2013. Coincidentally, Green Bay had a safety in that game, too, but also made two field goals in a 30-8 loss.

Steve from Hurricane, UT

I used to think it was just an excuse. Do you believe there's that much difference between any NFL team's 1s versus 2s and 3s? They're all such exceptional athletes to be able to get to this level.

The players will never say it, but fortunately I'm 5-foot-9 without a shred of athletic ability so here you go: As strange as it may seem, there is a difference between established veterans making millions and players on the roster bubble trying to make their NFL dreams come true.

Julian from Gastonia, NC

I don't have a solution for the challenge but when the goal is to choose the best backup QB when playing with the starting unit, how much can really be gained by evaluating their performance with other backups or even players who won't make the team? How much does it really mean?

I don't read much into how the Packers' second-team offense performed against Denver's starters. The situation kind of is what it is. That said, those are the reps with which Sean Clifford and the second-team offense must make do. Unless it's a legit QB1 competition, the backup typically won't get those preseason snaps. Opportunity is what you make of it and that goes for every position. However, I vividly remember Graham Harrell having a shaky camp in 2012 and then locking down the Packers' No. 2 job after carving up Kansas City's starters in the preseason finale.

Tom from New Braunfels, TX

Since there wasn't a lot of "good" to watch in the Denver game, I decided to focus on Caleb Jones when he was playing. I have often wondered what is keeping him from getting his chance to play more. I did not see him lose a single rep and he destroys on run plays, I mean the defender just disappears and he seals off the corner completely. He looked good in pass blocking, too. What is keeping him from being up with the twos? He played right and left tackle in the first two games.

It seemed like the Packers wanted a long look at rookie sixth-round pick Travis Glover at right tackle, which led to Caleb Jones entering the game a little later than usual. I've always been a big fan of Jones. As you said, he's a mauling run-blocker. Admittedly, Jones' challenge is mastering pass protection, which is a must in this scheme.

Jerry from Rockford, IL

Good morning, Insiders. Love your response to JP from Geneva, IL. I don't normally post after an embarrassing loss, but I have to point out two things. The final 53 is going to be difficult for everyone involved. Who has the final say on the 53? The coach or the GM? Also, without playing the starters, does this show the importance of the team as a whole? This next week is so important for everybody involved. I'm so glad I don't have to make the decisions of anybody involved. Go Pack Go.

Brian Gutekunst has final say on the roster, but conversations are always ongoing between the personnel department and coaching staff. That's football 101.

Christopher from Sun Prairie, WI

When is the deadline for roster reduction and are the Packers planning to cut more than the required number of players so they can fill the roster from the waiver wire?

Cutdown day is Tuesday, Aug. 27 at 3 p.m. CT. I would not expect Green Bay to go beneath 53. Even if they submit a waiver claim, the Packers aren't required to make a corresponding move until they're awarded that player. If you remember last year, Jonathan Ford and Tariq Carpenter made the initial 53 but were released the next day to make room for Zayne Anderson and Ben Sims.

Ryan from Sun Prairie, WI

How much do you think the starting offensive line will play in the preseason finale together?

Matt LaFleur said after the game they're still working through that. Perhaps we'll learn more this afternoon.

Dave from Waterford, OH

Something noticeably present with certain teams, that obviously the head coach and probably the GM emphasize, is a particular physicality or toughness when they are teaching/selecting their players. Sean Payton teams have always been physically tough. We can name other coaches of similar ilk, one who particularly stands out in Detroit for such an approach. I think LaFleur wants that on this team. Hopefully, we'll see that become a reality this year. Maybe the Jeff Hafley hire will bring that out?

I think it will. Hafley wants his defenders playing fast and free, relaying on their instincts to guide them. Aggression is the soil from which physicality sprouts.

Greg from Downers Grove, IL

Us Packers fans have the belief that the Pack has considerable depth in many positions. After watching the first two practice games, our O-line and run game has not yet impressed. Thoughts and what can we expect?

The Packers have the fifth-most rushing yards in the preseason. Green Bay didn't run the ball well Sunday but be careful filling those "not yet impressed" balloons with lead.

John from Jupiter, FL

Morning Wes. After the second preseason game I'm curious as to what you believe the chances are the backup QB is currently on the roster? Thanks.

98%. I'd say 100% but you gotta account for injuries.

Joe from Pittsburgh, PA

After that Denver horror show, will we finally come out of the clouds and sign a veteran backup quarterback? If Love goes down, this team is toast.

A year ago, some fans were clamoring for Sean Clifford to start over Jordan Love. Now, some fans are panicking over a preseason game. I have a feeling it's the same fans.

Ted from Findlay, OH

Why do they set up a locker on the road for players that are being held out of a preseason game? I have seen this in both games this year.

Because they still go through pregame warmups in uniform.

Nathan from Laramie, WY

Greetings and welcome back to work after a grueling return flight. I am confused by the safety/free kick dilemma. Is the issue that a kickoff now has the advantages of a free kick or that a free kick now holds no advantage (read: reward for a safety) over a conventional kickoff? Is the free kick and the kickoff now functionally identical? Thank you for addressing this issue. (signed) Confused in Packerland.

More or less. As LaFleur discussed, having the option to kick off after a safety negates the field advantage the defense previously earned its offense when the opposition had to punt following a safety.

The Green Bay Packers kicked off their second preseason matchup against the Denver Broncos at Empower Field at Mile High on Sunday, Aug. 18, 2024.

Dave from Middletown, CT

How about this tweak to the free-kick rule following a safety: instead of kicking from 15 yards farther back, which the kicker can pretty much compensate for, run a kickoff as normal, but move the ball after the play 15 yards in the receiving team's favor? I think something similar should be done for any penalty currently assessed on the kickoff. The only flaw I can see is if the kicking team recovers the ball somehow and gets it into the end zone. Thoughts?

All I want to know is whether injury risk on a traditional free kick is the same as a kickoff return. Maybe I'm being obtuse, but it always felt like kickoffs were more dangerous than punts after a safety.

Bill from Sheboygan, WI

So, I watched pretty much the whole game and what I saw was a very undisciplined play by players trying to make team, poor tackling and out of position. Now, the second half was better.

It was.

Dan from Omaha, NE

Was the 27-2 outcome indicative of how poorly we played in all phases? QBs averaged 3.7 yards per attempt, RBs averaged 3.4 per rush. The longest reception a mere 11 yards, two fumbles (one not lost), an interception, missed field goal, and two touchbacks on punts. Can you help provide any sense of a silver lining?

The Packers got out of Denver healthy, which is always the most important thing in the preseason. Hopefully, the concussion Ralen Goforth sustained isn't a long-term concern.

Ray from Phoenix, AZ

How did the kickers perform in Denver? The game didn't provide much in the way of opportunities for either kicker. With teams sometimes only having to go 30 to 35 yards to get into field-goal range, the need for a reliable kicker becomes even more important.

Greg Joseph missed the Packers' only field-goal attempt wide right from 47 yards. With three kickers on the roster, Green Bay is still looking for someone to seize the job.

Tony from Davenport, IA

On away games are the two of you available for a meet and greet? My son and I will be in Nashville to watch the Packers and Titans, we'll be there early Sunday morning. We would both like to meet the both of you.

I'll be at the Packers Everywhere pep rally in Nashville. I believe Spoff will be, too.

Rich from Grand Rapids, MI

In a game full of "bad," perhaps the worst thing was missing the field goal – a make would have at least been a Scorigami for the game. Alas, we are stuck with repeating a 27-2 score first achieved in the late '50s.

Do preseason games count towards Scorigami?

Garrett from Rockford, MI

Preseason or otherwise, when was the last time the Packers ended a game with two points on the board? My gut tells me it's not unprecedented, but I can't imagine it happens on many occasions.

It's happened twice in the regular season, a 14-2 loss to the Bears in 1937 and a 2-0 win over the Bears in 1932. In the preseason, the Packers lost to the Giants 10-2 in 1985. They also lost to the Duluth Kelleys 6-2 in a non-league game in 1922.

Dan from Columbus, OH

It is honestly hilarious to read all the overreactions to the Broncos game when we played all our backups. You would think we already have the first pick in next year's draft. Is the baloney almost done guys?

Brazil can't get here soon enough.

Derek from Eau Claire, WI

Is it just me, or is Spoff being a little secretive about his playlist? And yes, I hope he names the playlist "Spoffify."

I think we're done here. Have a great Tuesday, everyone.

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