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Talk about a tone-setter

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Jim from Tempe, AZ

The Packers achieved full inconsistency on Sunday.

Fair.

Warren from Lutz, FL

Down 28-0 with everything possible going wrong, a lot of Packer fans were walking out where we were watching. With this young team I find myself completely intrigued regardless of the score. Despite losing, what an effort. How can you not root for this team? What grit.

They're nothing if not entertaining.

Jake from Decatur, GA

For better and for worse, that felt a lot like the first half of last season.

Just a lot weirder. That was an awfully strange game.

Andrew from Chicago, IL

Mike's first point in his game recap is Spoff on. (I'll see myself out.) You just can't dig yourself in that big a hole and expect to win. Bottom line.

There's a reason the largest comeback in franchise history is 23 points. 28? Mercy. So much has to go right, and even after it got to 28-22, the Packers still kept making mistakes.

David from Janesville, WI

Gents – 1. Tough loss. 2. Brayden Narveson may have the coach's confidence but at some point the kicker situation needs to be made right. 3. Our receivers had chances to make tough catches, just couldn't seem to get it done. 4. After a tough start both sides of the ball came on strong. 5. The four-man rush seemed to get stoned too often. 6. Hope Christian Watson and Devonte Wyatt are okay. 7. Minnesota is for real. 8. Penalties still are an issue. 9. Josh Jacobs OK? 10. Put on the big boy pants and get ready for a tough trip to LA.

No arguments. You just can't play worse than the Packers did for the first 25 minutes of this game. I'd call it a comedy of errors except it wasn't funny. Speaking specifically about the defense, this was not the day for the four-man rush to struggle, not when you're down two of your top four corners. Hafley was in a pickle with how much pressure to try to bring without leaving an already shorthanded secondary too vulnerable. Just a bad recipe for too many chunk plays.

Mike from Manchester, UK

I feel like you guys will be inundated with "if only the kicker hadn't missed two field goals..." statements and questions, but I don't feel he shoulders even half the blame here. Yes, he should do better, but for a defense that has played so well to give up 28 points in the first half when we needed to hang our hat on them is diabolical. The saving grace is the way they came out after the half. We're not a million miles away.

Never are. I don't put the fourth TD on the defense when the Vikes took over at the 4-yard line, but those first three drives featured 168 yards for Minnesota's offense plus 29 more in penalties. The defense didn't respond soon enough to stem the tide, and the response after the lead was cut to 28-22 was immensely disappointing as well. There were massive letdowns in all three phases early on, but the defense's bad start dictated how the rest of the game went.

Dean from Vienna, VA

Gents, despite the tough loss I saw a Packer team with a much higher ceiling than the Vikes. They have to clean up the mistakes but if they do (like they did last year) then the sky is the limit for this young group. I was disappointed by the loss but came away very optimistic. Strange feeling, but I'll take it.

I don't get optimistic or pessimistic or whatever else. It's a week-to-week league. It's a loss. There's a lot to learn from. They showed some good qualities, particularly resiliency. Now what do they do with all that? It's up to them. I do think they'll be fine.

Mark from Canton, GA

Seems to me that this team is both good at making the other team make mistakes, and bad at making their own mistakes. Do you think overall clearing up mistakes is one of the toughest things for a coach? It's not like they can just go into a team meeting and say "stop making mistakes" and a switch gets thrown.

We're not at practice so it's impossible for me to say if the errors carry over from during the week, or just crop up when it really matters. Only the coaches and players themselves know that.

Vishnu from Santa Clara, CA

Loved seeing the fight from the Packers. Loved the adjustments and even the tackling from the defense. The penalties on offense are getting worrisome, though. Too often the offense has found itself way behind the sticks because of some silly pre-snap thing or a hold. Have to think that will be a heavier emphasis for LaFleur and his staff.

The coaches can only emphasize so much when you're also trying to implement game plans. The players have to clean up their games.

Graeme from Tucson, AZ

I'll say it and risk the potential wrath coming my way. I don't think Jordan Love should have played, not because of the performance but because he clearly wasn't healthy. Which means he hasn't been healthy when practicing and should have been resting his knee vs. risking further injury. This isn't Week 14 or 15 when we're trying to get into the dance. The coaching staff has been reckless I feel. I'm guessing you won't agree but surely it's worth a conversation?

I leave those decisions to the people who know way more about the particulars than I ever will. Was Love 100%? No. Was he good enough to throw for 389 yards and four touchdowns? Yes. There's risk every time a player takes the field, and if he needs to learn how to play on a knee that might not be 100% for a while, then as soon as he's capable, he needs to get that experience or the acclimation process just gets delayed.

Dennis from De Pere, WI

Good morning! Do you think Narveson's big jersey number is weighing him down too much and affecting his kicks?

That's a new one. I don't know anything about kicking. All I know is all his misses have been to the right, and to never overcompensate seems almost unheard of. I don't know what the Packers are going to do. They have another kicker on the practice squad (Alex Hale) but I have no idea if they feel he's ready. Riding this kicker carousel is not a good place to be.

Jon from Willmar, MN

How much longer do you think we will give this kicker?

No idea.

Josh from Wanamingo, MN

I understand he's "embarrassed" but personally I loved the emotion from LaFleur today. Whether it was designed to fire up the team or not they played inspired football after that. I love our coach. Am I way off the mark?

It wasn't designed, like a baseball manager getting intentionally tossed to juice up his squad. It was pure emotion and frustration from a coach full of both. I'm sure the players appreciate how much he cares, but he regretted it big time, because he wouldn't excuse one of his own players for getting a similar flag. That aside, for not one of the officials on the field to be watching for a timeout in a situation that obviously called for one is just inexcusable. Bill Vinovich generally has one of the league's best crews, but they just flat-out blew that and LaFleur didn't deserve a penalty.

Keif from Berlin, Germany

C'mon II, how do you only give Josh Jacobs when he's running hard and well only nine carries? Seriously, what was Matt LaFleur thinking?

He suggested after the game that Emanuel Wilson was doing better in pass protection, which was somewhat eye-opening. So with having to throw so much facing a big deficit, Wilson got more snaps in the game than originally planned.

Alex from Rockford, IL

When was the last time there was a season sweep between the Packers and Vikings? I may be imagining things, but it seems like over the last several years the pattern goes: Vikings win over a disjointed Packers team early in the season, then Green Bay returns the favor late in the season. If it exists, I hope the trend continues!

The pattern you describe is how it's fallen the last three years (2021-23). The last sweep was in 2019, by Green Bay.

The Green Bay Packers kicked off their fourth game of the season against the Minnesota Vikings at Lambeau Field on Sunday, Sept. 29, 2024.

Austin from Manassas, VA

Four turnovers, two missed FGs, abandoning the run too early, a few bad drops, and a few bad penalties yet we only lost by two against an undefeated team. No need to panic – these are all fixable. Just get out of our own way!

I didn't have an issue with how little the Packers ran the ball, given the situation. My chagrin was with the hero deep shot right after the long catch by Wicks. I thought the offense had developed a good routine after an explosive play of either running it on the next snap or throwing quick and short to keep moving. On the fateful deep pick, as I described in my Rapid Reaction, Love changed Wicks' route from an out to a go, on first down. Just wasn't necessary, and he left himself with no good option when Harrison Smith blitzed untouched. I'm sure Kevin O'Connell regrets throwing the ball on second-and-1 from the 20 when McKinney picks it off, and on second-and-8, up 14 points, in the fourth quarter against Nixon's slot blitz for the sack-fumble. That's football, a highly imperfect game.

Matt from Ixonia, WI

Tough loss but I love the fight in the second half. Did the Packers' defense have a tell? It seemed like the Vikings called a screen at the perfect time, every time. Maybe it just looked that way because the "Screen Master" Aaron Jones, was in the backfield.

O'Connell definitely made his share of seemingly perfect calls against what the defense was doing, far more than his regrets. There was no worse sequence for the Green Bay defense than on the opening drive. Right after Isaiah McDuffie's missed INT, the Vikings convert third-and-14 with a 31-yard pass to Nailor, then hit Addison for 29 and the TD. From a possible pick to third-and-14 to 60 yards and a touchdown in the blink of an eye. Talk about a tone-setter.

John from Dallas, TX

A different take on Craig's question, have you tried running the WYMM segment by the position coach to see if he has any interesting tidbits to add? Each WYMM usually focuses on a particular position group, would be cool to get their perspective as well, even if it's only one play.

I'm pleased to report the coaching staff has much higher priorities than analyzing our website content.

Jeff from Villages, FL

Realizing it's early, but Gutey's acquisition of Malik Willis, in the long storied history of the Packers, may rival Ron Wolf's trade for Brett Favre as the best trade ever?

You're approaching II Hall of Fame territory there.

Gene from Greenville, WI

Do you think Lambeau Field will ever get rid of the bench seating for regular stadium types?

No. Doing so would eliminate about 10,000 seats, though that might prevent more visiting fans from getting tickets I suppose.

Butch from Donna, TX

The Packers played yesterday and showed who they are. The youngest team in the NFL, with amazing talent and amazingly undisciplined. Your thoughts?

Both talent and discipline can be developed.

Chris from Titusville, FL

What's the real takeaway from this game? I choose to think it's that this team has grit, moxie, and won't quit.

That's the culture here, and there's something to be said for it. This team has its share of issues, but it never runs out of fight.

Ken from New York, NY

Talk about a woulda, coulda, shoulda game.

The story of the team on the losing side. Every week. Happy Monday.

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